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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
真的蛮喜欢林嘉欣的 父亲的角色有点弱 母女关系的部分蛮好的
琐碎的生活对话和冲突没有表现人物更深层的心理变化，对社会问题探讨也是浅尝辄止，这点不如《瀑布》，少女恋马的情节和《鱼缸》里很像，p.s.林嘉欣还是好好看哎
很真实，所以很入心。亲密关系是最难的，因为大家都take it for granted，也觉得可以太过随意。
瑕疵是家庭关系紧张、缓和、爆发的转换点有几处有点突然，一下子切中脉门虽然达到目的，但不如推拿疏通来的水到渠成，这就是所谓的需要功夫吧。比较一下李安的《饮食男女》杨德昌的《一一》可能会更好理解这个意思。
3.5 题材跟《瀑布》完全撞车，但水平算是等量齐观瑕瑜互见，相比起来还是钟孟宏更懂得利用视听构建氛围，阮凤仪主要还是依靠对白和吵架推动，前者有时候确实有点空泛，显得过于简单，后者能体现出它的复杂性，但又真的不太会（用国语）吵架，有时候顶不上去又很尬。既是跨文化之痛，也是新导演之痛吧。
林嘉欣好美。故事里的每个人都有自己的困境，不能单纯批评芳怡自私不理解父母，她的世界被颠覆学校里的一切不如意正好碰上了这尴尬的自我年纪。但我真的有点讨厌家里女儿和爸爸合谋讨厌妈妈的情节。妈妈一个人面对生死，就像思婷说的那样如果现在已经是她能做到的最好了呢？每个人都在希望她回复平静承诺不会早死，有没有问过她想要就这样死去吗？好在爸爸虽然爱抱怨却始终尝试理解妻子，小女儿肺炎隔离时也放弃出差留在家里。其实作为家中唯一一个赚钱养家的人，爸爸的压力也可想而知的大。芳安看起来真的懂事很多，难以想象在这样年幼的时段她竟然一直在试图弥合妈妈和姐姐之间的间隔。她竟然知道跟姐姐说，你真的知道妈妈是爱你的吧？学校的语文老师第一次训话看上去凶凶的，没想到却是她在发现芳怡说恨妈妈的blog时反而给了她演讲说真话的机会。
家庭生活刻画得不错，凸显人性的复杂，多给一星鼓励一下。
电影中展现的冲突很多。从直接的电影名字来看，两个文化之间的冲突，再到整个家庭成员彼此之间的矛盾，还有传统疾病癌症与最近的新冠肺炎。但是影片想表达的太多，反而在文化冲突方面并没有讲述的很清楚，流于很碎的表面展现。
女儿芳婷最恨母亲之处，不是母亲一厢情愿地把还在进行文化认同阶段的她带到美国，而后又不由分说地被现实击败，把她拽回母语之地任由适应，而是母亲不肯好好活着，母亲就要死了，恨一个人总比爱一个人容易。
过于贴近议题的刻意，用对白推进剧情却不见人物有过真正的沟通。等垃圾车和结尾两处喜欢，其余的乏味了点。
这个家庭的四个成员每个人都哭过。其实两个孩子的哭只是人生的小插曲，而两个大人的哭才是人生的主题歌。
文化冲突，家庭冲突，错位的爱意。爱和恨是一体两面。
壳子不错，内容没有填的很深刻，起码是没有让人心头一震或者深深回味的部分。戏剧冲突有了，戏剧冲突没有体现出来。只能说在我这很一般。
林嘉欣演的很好！自私的女儿也可信！母女间的矛盾也感同身受，但总好像缺点什么，故事有点架空，再多知其所以然……就更好啦！
American Girl讲，有时候恨跟爱是一体两面；“但这如果已经是她的最好了呢？”
喜欢对女性间那种涓涓细流般的绵密情感有着细语般的 刻画，喜欢母女间温柔、明媚又直率的爱。非常细腻之余却没有刻意为之的矫揉。时间线被设定在于此刻相似却有距离的地方。没有那种必须为此刻宏大的历史记录点滴的逼切愿望，这些是可爱的部分。小女孩没有杂念，演得很好。
是没有很好啦 但寂寞自以为无人理解独自面对所有垂死挣扎的青春期 就还蛮 让人无奈的。
然而两位主演的表演与单薄的文本形成了惊人的对照，在碎片化的冲突与和解里，母女二人仍然贡献了细腻丰富的表达。
每个人都好累呀，演员都不错，就是剧作上略单一。
林嘉欣还演的挺好的……出乎意料啊！有种看到自己变老的辛酸
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