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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
娘娘腔的继侄子钮祜禄Peter杀了深柜的爱上他的Phil，所以给Phil一个耶鲁学古典文学的优等生的背景是为什么呢？弟弟和寡妇Rose的爱情挺美好的，但为什么将Rose拍成阴谋诡计又神经兮兮的酗酒型人格？我看的127分钟版没有“最后一晚”，被删啦吗？
美国最后的良心，加州人的绝望呐喊。一方面高等人支持社会达尔文，觉得你穷人奸懒谗猾不配受教育，一方面又抱怨你们这些人怎么这么傻逼，再这么傻逼下去地球就得毁灭了知不知道。高等人觉得自己找了不少红脖的笑话，其实将来回头看，拍这片子是高等人留给自己的笑话。
不是把社会现象粗线条地临摹几笔就可以自称社会讽喻的。纵然在这部电影里散落着现实的影子，我们却遍寻不见投下影子的躯干，更不用说理解那具躯干的肌理和构造了。在我看来这部电影几乎有些招安的味道，让人们在不痛不痒的观影中获得一种最浅层的批判共鸣，一次廉价快餐式的情绪宣泄（男女主角在电视节目上怒吼时替我们完成），这是一种面向不满的满足，一种针对失望之情的娱乐。它绝不可能激发真正的问题意识，而这是任何真诚的社会讽喻作品应该做到、或起码立志做到的。
好压抑的作品，作为西部片，它太细腻了（可能是女导演对于情感部分的表达上会有优势）卷福有天生的功力去驾驭一些性格古怪的角色，这次又成功了。简导给我们呈现了温情浪漫的西部世界。尤其是卷福与男孩情感的变化上极致的镜头语言和细节处理令人叹服。毫无疑问它是一定会冲奥的影片符合奥斯卡的审美观期待好运
连贯性不是很好，卷福演的挺好，可能从前演过的角色太深入人心了吧，导致感觉上形象太过英伦范儿，看上去今年也是要拿影帝的节奏啊。其实这个男主更适合马修麦康纳来演。
Deliver my soul from the sword, my darling from the power of the dog. 克制，诡异，慢节奏，性别塑造与爱欲，动机一直延续到最后一刻才完全揭露。大年初一看得津津有味👀
一部电影学院要分析镜头语言的大银幕电影，放网飞上可惜了
大师力作就是这样。节奏平稳却在情绪上游游走走，用大量时间堆细节而非用剧情片的节奏讲故事。整体下来就是细腻过瘾。
卷福的表演和摄影是唯二的亮点。有人说邓斯特表演也很不错，我却讨厌她那永远长不大的娃娃脸和腔调，如果非要用她，把身份设定改成瘦弱男的姐姐，可能还有一定可信度。
英国气质混搭西部片。
拍的很细腻，人物刻画、布景、运镜都比较极致，但是需要很大的耐心看完，而且看完了心情会比较抑郁。。。。。
男权社会杀男人的故事，恐同果然是深柜，为了追求所谓的“男性气质”深深掩藏住孤独和欲望。通篇低沉的音乐特别压抑，有几场特写特别来劲：卷福裸身躺在阳光下，从裆里掏出BH汗巾子细细摩挲，假装皮肤间的触碰；罗斯换到手套后在夕阳下跌跌撞撞欢欣向前；皮特解剖时冷静的侧脸，最后一夜递烟时那种撩人、面对猎物撒网的眼神；第二天英俊的马抖动着皮肤和鬃毛引人遐想。片中也有多处性暗示，揉捏纸花花心、抚摸擦拭马鞍、两人独自外出时立木桩子……卷福表演佳，第一次换上西装时气质陡然一变，成了无助、脆弱、有弱点（有爱）的人。
克制版烧女图？拍得太压抑，浪费了卷福一身戏
而是反男权电影
真是萬萬沒想到 前半段‘我實在想太多了’ 後半段‘我想的還不夠多！’ 年輕男生演的蠻好的喔
这部电影真的太可怕了，看完会有心理阴影。原著者和导演相比对人性是非常悲观的，就当我们以为故事会朝着互相救赎的角度发展时，Peter竟然把Phil给杀了。Phil对Peter的感情是清晰可见的，但Peter对Phil究竟是什么感情我想很难有一个单一的定论。
看简介以为是同性文艺片，其实是一部复仇凶杀片。看前半部以为Phli是糙老爷们，其实是内心柔弱的Gay。以为Peter是柔弱的少年，其实是心狠手辣的凶犯。全片晦暗悠长，铺垫太多，节奏过于缓慢。幸好摄影还不错，能弥补剧情的啰嗦。
冷酷的哥哥、沉默的弟弟、脆弱的弟媳、陰柔的繼子，共同生活在廣渺草原裡的牧場，一切事務不一定是誰說了算，最後還得看哪個人夠狠。
本以为“群星荟萃”的电影肯定流于表面，但出乎意料地扎实。全程讽刺美国社会是最显眼的，在这背后，还有不错的角色。有点好笑，有点悲凉，有迷失有清醒有成长。
母亲肯定知道他杀手特质，但母亲有意利用了吗?反正客观上,推动他查医书寻找解决方案的确实是母亲酒后那段 远在天边的星星唾手可得。
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