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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
这个节奏好棒啊，也可能是演技？就是所有情绪积累到最后一刻，虽然明明最后一幕也没有刻意煽情？但是你就哭开了。里面也看到很多原生家庭问题，虽然这么说好像找借口，但确实这种影响有时候可以摧毁一切
桑德拉·布洛克真的太好了。躺椅交谈那处的眼神真的太好了。隐忍，坚忍，不说。
谁都觉得她该去死，可是没想到她所说的I have to protect her是这个意思。前面的起伏压抑全都是给最后的反转做铺垫。虽然结局没有大团圆，but也已经是最好的结局了吧。女神演技毋庸置疑。
不知怎的，真实的戏路很熟悉，但又好像离真实查了一口气
情感线根基不牢，一是缺乏可信度，为突出下层阶级亲姐妹的相依为命而刻意抽离所有父母职能，却并没有深挖父母职能缺失的社会结构性原因，仅仅交待一句“母亲难产而死、父亲自杀”，有一种中式武林高手父母双亡的人设感，显得现实被架空、太戏剧化；其二是五岁的妹妹误杀警察，且不论小孩子误用枪支是不是有意反对“持枪合法化”的一种政治投机，至少法律的角度上妹妹不用承担刑责，而姐姐亦可以澄清罪名、顶多安一个“监护不力”。姐姐如母亲，这一点合理，但为什么要安排受害者一家的荒诞支线，很不可理解，不知电影是想表达什么，“受害者有罪”？被杀的警察父亲留下的两个儿子之所以变态是因为缺乏父爱？为什么要安排大儿子跟二儿媳通奸的戏码？如果是表达无法接纳刑满释放的罪犯回归社会，似乎社会成员的反应又并非不合理。不知表达的主旨是什么。
我喜欢这种美国底层人民的生活琐碎，有种夹缝中生存的救赎感。
好电影。人生无助。而，努力，也只在某些地方有用。Bullock不要再打针了，有鲔鱼嘴的前兆了。
其实是一个很严肃的话题。站在寄养家庭、警长儿子和主角身上都能理解各自的心境、处境。饶恕（forgive）意味着和解，这种痛彻心扉的感觉很难站在一个轻飘飘地旁人视角感受得到。另外，很不喜欢一些肤浅的戏谑评论“冲奥片”“拿奖片”。
在社会认知愈发扁平化、标签化的当下，个体的阶级、过往往往代表了他人眼中的全部。我觉得原因既是阶级差异、也有信息时代对社会意识的重塑。She's unforgivable, because they won't. 一众卡斯虽然算不上大明星，但个个都是实力派。Sandra Bullock这绝对是影后级别的表演，开场一个眼神就写满了牢狱之灾与精神折磨的苦楚。
换做是我也会做同样的事，没有一个父母是不愿意牺牲的
这种缓缓道来的故事直击人心。女主演技全程在线。
观感有点像我前段时间看的日影《美好的世界》，但不及日影动人
7点5分吧，剧情少有点刻意，再打磨打磨就好了。布洛克演技真不错
所以家里有枪的要把它锁好，小朋友拿了很危险的。
为了亲爱的妹妹承担了一切也无怨言
她承受了生命不可承受之重 她挽救了三个年轻人的一生 最后一幕感动了
2021英国版《不可饶恕》，至少是第二次翻拍此故事了。此版跟前两版相比，情节设计更紧凑，也更合理；感情的浓度相对要饱满一些，不过在这点上还有精进的空间。尤其是布洛克的演技，简直是浑然天成——跟她以前扮演的角色反差太大，即使如此，相信喜欢她以前角色的人也会喜欢这一款的布洛克。
Sandra的脸不知道为什么感觉已经经不起无妆特写了，但演技还是在的。ps：竟然取景在西雅图，亚马逊的球球还入镜了，无比熟悉
At first I thought it would talk about restorative justice vs punitive justice. As story unfolding it shows different social classes in America and how people from these classes think and act.
生活太苦了，卡司名单出来的时候才意识到脖领已经哭湿了。
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