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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
一个只在上海成立的故事。想不到年底了还出来一对王炸影片，喜剧之光和国漫精品双子星闪耀。
不再纯洁，却是风味人间。
是冲着“中年女人对于爱情的态度”去看的，结果大失所望。如果中年女人面对爱情就是比年轻人多说几句鸡汤的话，那我不如去看智慧背囊来得更快。上海话是特点，但是导演构景力好一般啊…16:9的屏幕完全没拍出来上海的美，很多个群戏的时候画面重心也是偏的。整个片子的精华可能就是老乌那一句“假的，我编的”和他不易察觉的泪水。其他的都是训练我上海话听力来的吧。😅看完很想问导演：你确实你晓得你自己想讲什么的哇？这一点也不灵啊。
第一印象是上海话的伍迪艾伦，但再一想想，内核其实是萨姆门德斯。
喜欢画展那一场戏，两个女人对男导演眼中的女性角色解读，想起之前的一个观点：男性凝视下，女性只有三种角色，圣母，荡妇，女儿，分别为了满足依赖欲，性欲和保护欲，始终是客体，是工具，是第二性
吴越“我只是犯了所有男人都会犯的错” 这是国产电影的进步哈哈哈哈哈
雪天一盆火，苦药一勺糖。有房、离异、文艺、颓唐，不爱出厅堂，挺会下厨房。男人共情的是我熬了半辈子鲫鱼汤也该老来one night stand，女人幻想的是我倔了几十年总会有半个肩膀一袋吃食。沪上当然是精致的摆盘，但每一个要素都戳在普通话审美霸权的肋眼上，你能怎么样呢？导演一等一聪明，端上一锅老少咸宜浓淡适中的汤。微信里来来回回差半步就是油腻，牺牲了老乌总算是有了妥当的圆场。中国每年应该有十部这样的作品，一不小心让它出头了，其实真不是故意的。
好得不得了。倪虹洁真是妙妙妙。然后看了评论，为什么有些人看一个电影，不是看这个电影里有什么，而是在意里面“没有”什么？不会想和这样的人做朋友。我十分enjoy。
动人的故事里留小巧的迷，只给一句"Reality is not a Fellini film." 任你猜爱情神话真假，真是浪漫死了。
不知道有多少在电影院大荧幕看的，或许窝在家配咖啡当背景音还算惬意，但是本人及女性朋友观影体验如坐针毡，入不了戏。
马伊琍人到中年孩子不大事业有成，结果还得挤在妈妈的老破小，开场先滚一轮床单，又跟徐峥来回过招，人设也挺让人迷糊的。
很喜欢，这种属于中年人的都市轻喜剧在国产片里可太难得了，全程上海话非常好笑，上海人的生活情调和精打细算也处处体现。最惊喜的是甚至后半段渐渐偏离了爱情，徐峥和几个女人形成了一种微妙的和谐，毫不狗血。老乌和索菲亚罗兰那段简直是神来之笔，编剧非常有水平
当每一个梗都被电影所框定的受众群猜到时，多少就有些卖派了。
令人惊异的“金句”频出，听懂就能拍案叫绝的程度。坐在商业影院里但恍惚像是坐在资料馆看了一部是枝裕和、侯麦、伍迪艾伦…但又都不是，是内地语境里独特而稀缺的城市电影、成熟探讨两性关系的爱情小品。
投屏《爱情神话》时，顶上的字幕是澳门威尼斯人还是请24小时删除？
展现了多元价值观的国产片，都值得我们去捍卫
套路感还是有点强的，不过讲到文艺作品里头的上海男女，有一路确实是尽显“渣女”本色的。怎么说呢，这个地方的女人不讲政治正确，都是铁板一块的正经货金宇澄也写不出《繁花》来。《东岸纪事》里的乔乔看上去像个典型的拉三，么办法，就是好看呀。上海的市井文化有种消解能力，能消解一切宏大叙事，包括宏大的女权叙事。你说李小姐吧，看上去精明独立，也被老外骗去两套房子；蓓蓓虽然外面搞花头，但其实不想离婚的呀，说她们女权，也激进不到哪里去。所以说也就是白相相，格洛瑞亚就是典型的白相人。包括这个电影也就是蛮好白相，没什么太深刻的啦。但好白相又有啥不好呢？本来谈的也不是感情，而是规则。大家在一定的规则范畴内，都可以白相，从心所欲不逾矩，不然超出了规则，就伐好白相了呀。所以不要看它是爱情片，真谈感情的，是另一种叙事方式。
那是片尾点题的爱情神话。
感觉导演在努力营造出一种“格调”出来，不是那种假模假式的装腔作势，而是一群人融入自己的生活后展现出的一种舒适状态，但问题是整个圈层立在了精致有闲的小资阶级之上，导致整体显得有些失真。
3.记得之前有一种观点说，中国电影京圈的话语权太大，上海文化一直没什么存在感，本片应该可以改变一下这种状况。
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