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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
韩国以及印度的电影，为何敢于这么拍出黑暗，国内连拍都不敢吧，敢拍的导演演员肯定直接被封杀，几乎不可能过审，都让国民活在童话之中，感谢韩国印度拍的这种电影，让我们看清楚人性
我依然坚持，为了整个社会和司法秩序，我们必须遵守的是程序正义。实体正义可能见仁见智，追求和还原真相、绝对的正义也难如登天，因此我们所能保证的底线是程序的正义，程序正义和手段的正当性可最大的限度避免更多损失。如同河流那样，一次不公正的审判，包括对私刑的容忍和美化是从源头上污染水流。而绝对的「正义」又将和「公正」相区别，更倾向于人们内心的道德判断，但后者却是将个人与社会利益最大化的选择。片中涉及许多社科类议题例如媒体审判、政治歧视以及对人道主义的探讨。影片缺点也有例如全篇情绪铺得太满、刑事拘留嫌犯不必戴手铐等。但退一万步说，在这样一片土地，敢揭露、用某种运动的形式、甚至质疑种姓制度，台词「一个国家的尊严，就等同于它给女性的尊严」「让提出问题的人闭嘴的政治，让指责的人戴上手铐的政治」还是好事
印度电影在亚洲已经攀上顶流！
感觉比起《杰伊·比姆》来，还是差一些，但依然优秀。
法理和人情的平衡永远摄人心魄，尤其是议题还涉及女性公知，强奸，烧尸等，就更能点燃公众的愤怒和道德感。然而结果正义的前提要有基本的程序正义和事实基础。不然大众的善良就会成为被煽动的工具。印度很多影片都聚焦法律制度，种姓制度等社会议题，具有很强的社会责任感。不过影片前期的铺垫太长，前四十分钟都在铺垫学生造势和反抗热情，虽然为剧情反转蓄力，但仍然显得过于冗长，有后面紧凑的节奏会更加分。
如果律师真正辩护的就是那四位嫌犯，就算被害人是“完美”的，就算真实情况确实是四名嫌犯奸杀被害人，只要嫌犯一天没有受到法律的审判，就没有人可以判他们有罪，更不能用私刑。法律应该体恤民众，但更要超越民众的偏见。
仅体制谋杀这一点，
后半段是跪着看完的。
印度电影现在都比中国电影高出了不知道多少个档次
作为退学博士，
后半段是跪着看完的。
这是拍给印度人看的吗？不止，这是拍给人看的
第3630-故事是曲折的，直面问题是勇敢的，拍摄手法是商业的，改变是很难的。
故事和反转非常精彩，内容深刻，发人深省，涵盖的主题从女性到媒体到正义到真相，再到制度，涵盖之广，令人嗔目，值得学习。但影片本身质量一言难尽，逻辑上bug到离谱，庭审上俩律师各说各的就离谱，剪辑叙事毫无水平可言，像是一篇全靠配乐烘托的大型PPT。
反转再反转，最近比较喜欢的片子了。而且印度经济没有限制印度的电影发展。
嘶吼说教的越大声越显得表达绵软无力。
为什么印度男人都留胡子？学生VS警察，暴力冲突，不断升级。在良心面前，没有少数服从多数的法则。一个国家的尊严等同于给女性的尊严。歧视无处不在。政治的游戏，腐败黑暗的体制。感觉没结束呀，还有续集？
能拍出这样的电影并且让其通过审核上映。我看到了他们的希望
震撼！！真震撼！！十分震撼！！！一个中国人看印度电影痛哭流涕感慨万千！不到三个小时的电影里包裹的信息量太大了，完全可以拍一个电视剧的量！好几段镜头反复观看！特别是前20分钟那位女学生带着其他同学来到甘地广场抗议，穿插了老师生前的授课真是看得我头皮发麻汗毛直立！前两年我对韩国电影刮目相看，这两年我又对印度电影刮目相看！在中国媒体的报道下印度脏乱差qj大国，但是为什么人家呈现出来的影视作品如此的高质量！再看看近几年国内电影除了抗战片我想起来的依旧是我不是药神！哎！哎！哎！
反转得并不生硬，除了前半段过多的歌曲和慢节奏，其他都堪称完美。后半段紧凑了许多，对种姓制度和政治黑暗大加鞭挞，印度还真是能拍出好电影啊。
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