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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
4/10, 真的好难看啊啊啊啊啊，除了画面的场面调度以外几乎毫无能看的地方，风格化光影不是全片铺一个滤镜就完了，剧本简直就是逻辑破碎，很多事件可以说毫无生活基础莫名其妙，桥段之间的衔接逻辑真的顺畅吗，人物突然的出现，情感的不连贯，还有就是战争片最烦的就是不顾及逻辑的讲人性，能让观众共情就有鬼了。
总体来说形式大于内核。不愧是美院作品，摄影上之压抑与孤寂全通过灰调、枯树、云烟、死水展现出来了，服装妆容也能算合格，倒是把年代和气氛勾画出来了，运镜一搞变焦就感觉很现代，与所谓之东方诗意美学总感觉相悖。故事很简单，想讨论奉献、挣扎与牺牲，但人物没有事件的堆叠就没有情感的积累，共情不足。但好歹是主旋律的小进步吧。
但为了方言用配音不对口型就不行了，我很反感不对口型的配音，老老实实让演员学方言不行，演员基本素养吧。
剧组的摄影机滑轨是不是质量不好。。。有美的感觉，喜欢最后一个镜头。但是人看完都没分清真的难受，调度的存在感也太强了
结尾好担心从对面地上传来枪声，担心担心担心…但是没有
#2021 青年导演海上影展 很惊喜很喜欢 第一次看到如此诗意这么清新脱俗的中国战争电影
部分技术瑕疵无关紧要，这部电影意义不在于此。
战争会把我塑造成哪一个自己呢？
低饱和的画面把战争的压抑渲染得淋漓尽致。
影像很美，调度有出彩的地方。故事很单薄。影像的诗意≠诗电影。
自我迷恋的影像创新，无法弥补基本叙事能力的缺失
仁义满天飞:
游击战本来就是小叙事而不是宏大叙事 这才是共军战争史的正确打开方式
黑白电影决定着这是一部纯粹的艺术电影，不含一点商业元素。为数不多的有色彩画面是送饭的为数不多的治愈画面。诗性的水墨画风格，画面很美，确有国美风格。
我没有审美 我不配。。。另附我的朋友对本片锐评：拿摩二等🏅️
6/10。不是加层黑白滤镜再加上毫无节制的烟雾就是诗意摄影（虽然有几个镜头确实不错）。录音录的啥，后期声音做的也太粗糙了…..故事，半小时的内容能撑到一个半小时也是不易。算是中国战争片的特殊存在了，也算一种意义上的开拓吧。
不愧是中央美术学院的作品，光影、美术没的说，背景声也很吸引人，清晰明了，电影里不少隐喻，看个人理解了。看完后，我的情感没有一丝波动，不知道是不是导演拍的太克制了，作为战争片，让人不为所动，太理性了。
看完全片观感其实不错，因为美术风格而来，看完发现可能剧本和音效更佳，摄影上不及预期，出彩的镜头设计屈指可数。低饱和度的调色却没有充分展现明暗对比的使用，导演的场景设计上还需要更大胆一些，快下映了推荐大家去影院观看。
看了其他评论才想起来，影片最开始有一些蛇的意象的刻画；中间有飞蛾的意象。反正，蛇的出现是挺败笔的。
#海上影展/作为一部任务式的电影，规避掉了宏大叙事，但依然是一部以小见大的群像电影，导演说虽然是任务但并不跟艺术表达冲突，但是影片的艺术表达有一种举棋不定的半写实半戏剧冲突
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